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- Should we follow the rules in Leviticus? - If Abraham was saved through faith, do we need Jesus? - What type of whale swallowed Jonah? - Why do we lift our hands in worship? - Is Genesis 1 literal? Fearlessly treading the line between heresy and truth, this is ‘Stuff We Don’t Talk about in Church’

BCT ep.8: An Angry Rant about Prosperity Gospel

In this episode, Dangerous gets properly angry about the prosperity gospel and how Satan is using it to screw the church over. And how we, as the church, do little to nothing about it. The episode is supposed to be about how heathen culture has seeped into the church and that is a big example. He also covers Mega Churches and how church has become it’s own purpose and how what we now think of as church is, probably a construct of Satan.

Wow. Heavy stuff.


Black Company Theology – ep. 7 – Judges part 1

In this sweet, sweet episode, Dangerous takes a squizz at the Book of Judges. He does an overview (and will look in more detail next episode) and looks at how it connects to us today. He talks a lot about how we resonate with the Bible’s good guys and asks whether that’s really us? Are we the righteous prophets and Judges or the failing Israelites? He also delves into how the Judges in the book deteriorate and the importance of realising that most of the, so-called, Biblical Heroes and more Anti-heroes. The importance of realising that their actions are not necessarily deemed good by God just because He is using them to fulfill a mission.

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Black Company Theology – Episode 6 – Genesis

In this, another thrilling episode, Dangerous attempts an overview of the Old Testament and doesn’t get further than Genesis. But what he does do is look at the relationship between creation, Noah and Abraham and traces the line of God’s plan through. It is, he valiantly argues, the building block of our mission as set down in the Great Commission. The blueprint of God’s plan for us and the growth of the Kingdom. And in thus arguing, Dangerous refocuses the, er, focus of Christianity. Interesting stuff.

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Black Company Theology – Episode 5 – The OG OT

Phew, another episode of cracking content and finally we’re getting into the bones of the podcast. This episode Dangerous looks at the Bible and particularly the Old Testament and what it’s made of. A quick squizz at manuscript dating and how scholarly input can actually help us.

He also starts to look into the tensions we hold as Christians; how we can believe two opposing viewpoints at the same time (generally by ignoring one or the other as the situation fits) and how that affects our reading of the Bible.

If you wish to see Dangerous wonking on in all his bearded, bow tie wearing glory, this episode can also be found on YouTube.

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Black Company Theology – Episode 4 – Mission Statement

In this fine episode, Dangerous runs us through the end point of The Black Company. To reform Christianity back into a powerful movement, rather than the tradition led institution with all the baggage that it carries. In Acts the bad guys call Christians ‘those that turn the World upside down’. Does that sound like the 21st Century Western church to you?

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Black Company Theology – Episode 3

In this episode, Dangerous looks at Song of Songs and the dangers of ignoring it or interpreting it in the light of what we want Christianity to be. He also takes a brief look at porn and how it is affecting our society and muses on whether society would look differently had Christianity not ignored Song of Songs and made sex sinful…

Black Company Theology – Episode 2

In this episode, Dangerous begins to look closer at why we might need a reformation of Christianity in the Western world. He covers, well, loads really, but he does talk about the key things that have lost focus in the modern church. The Holy Spirit; service; Heaven/the afterlife and Evil (with a capital E – actual demons and stuff rather than naughty people).

The revolution reformation starts here! Exciting!

Also available as a video on YouTube, search Unspokenchurch.

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Black Company Theology – Episode 1

In this brand new podcast that builds upon the ideas from “Stuff We Don’t Talk about In Church”, ‘Dangerous’ Walker starts to outline why he thinks the Western, Protestant church needs a reformation. Why he thinks it’s broken. This podcast series will delve into the many facets of this, challenging us with the idea that we have, 100s of years ago, formed our brand of Christianity and chosen the parts of the Bible to fit into it.

Also available as a video (he’s a handsome chap) on YouTube. Search Unspokenchurch.

Jesus (Letter 22)

Greetings to you, Sir Dangerous of Dangeroushire.

A very reverent and sombre SMASH to you.

I guess there’s a sense in which we will never fully know the full detail of how the Godhead fits together. All throughout our discussions I am aware of the Apostle Paul’s words: ‘we see through a dark glass…’ This sounds like a bit of a cop-out, but if it is true that God’s ways are higher than ours, it is inevitable that we won’t be able fully to grasp some of the deeper truths. Without being able to technically define it, I am convinced, like you, that a.) Jesus was God b.) he pre-existed his coming on earth and c.) his existence was in some way irrecoverably changed through the incarnation. As you said, ‘the Word became flesh.’ In the same way, it is clear from the Gospels that Jesus’ post-resurrection body bears the scars (probably forever) of his death on the Cross. So you’re right that his earthly ministry defined and changed who he was. Now the book of Revelation describes Jesus as the ‘Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world.’ So perhaps, amazingly, Jesus has always, in some way, existed as God’s chosen sacrifice for us. But in another sense, when he became a man, he walked down a path and there was nowhere back.

This leads neatly onto another of your points about how we are ‘flawed Jesuses.’ I frankly think that the most neglected truth in the modern Evangelical church movement is that we are ‘in Christ.’ All he has is ours because we are ‘in Him.’ Jesus has all authority on heaven and earth and he gladly passes it to us. In the same way, because we are in Christ, God sees us as his loved, accepted, holy children and his chosen vessels for his will on earth. I think there is lots of needless agonising (mostly in my own life haha) because we don’t have the faith to see how much God has done for us. As you said, Paul and the other apostles were able to do amazing things in Jesus’ name, not because they were morally stronger than us, but because they had the faith to see that they had everything in Christ. Read Paul’s statement in Ephesians 1.

I liked your point about Hades and I think you’re basically correct that Jesus acts as the go between, allowing us to interact with God. In our politically correct culture, where we love to focus on God’s love for us, we tend to neglect the numerous passages in both the OT and the NT, which basically teach that ‘it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God’ (Hebrews 10). The Israelites really copped it if they got it wrong, when they were walking through the desert with God. This is not because God is harsh, capricious or because he automatically burns with wrath for us. It is because he is holy, he is above us and as you say, in his holiness he cannot be in the presence of sin. For me (and this is for me a precious personal conviction as well as a theological point) the only solution is Jesus’ death. Before we know God, we are his enemies (Ephesians 2), although the hatred is on our side, not his –  he still loves us and seeks reconciliation with us. When we accept Christ, we are ‘adopted’ as his children and enjoy the full blessings of his Father love. And what makes this transition possible is Jesus’ blood…again, it’s all over the OT and the NT. In the same way that the Israelites sheltered under the blood on their doorposts, while God’s Angel of Death and Judgment passed over them, we can shelter from the ‘coming wrath’ (1 Thessalonians 1, Colossians 3), as we trust in Jesus’ death for us.

Anyway, SMASHY old bean, I look forward to your response!

Sir Thomas

Jesus (Letter 21)

Sir Tom of Sirtomshire,

Before I say anything I need to clear up a misunderstanding. What I said in my previous letter was that I am not sure that Jesus existed prior to the incarnation in the same form. I really want to stress that. I was not saying that He did not exist, but that through the incarnation He took on a new form, one that he then took with Him back to Heaven.

John talks about Jesus as the Word in the beginning of his Evangelion (or Gospel is you wish to be drab); the Greek word for ‘word’ here is Logos. Logos means word/speech or wisdom/reason. This is SUPER important (in my ‘humble’ opinion) to our understanding of who Jesus was and now is. I think that Jesus existed as God’s thoughts/words rather than as a separate entity (It should be noted that ‘logic’ comes from logos).

You re, of course, right that God created the Universe through Jesus, but when we go back to that creation story what does it say? “God said…”. God spoke the Universe into creation and Jesus is the Word. In that way God created the universe through the Word. John tells us then that the ‘Word became flesh’. Jesus was the embodiment of God’s speech/logic.

When you then take various things Paul says such as Jesus being the first-born amongst the dead, it suggests that it was Jesus (rather than the Logos) that ascended to Heaven.

So, just to make things clear there is the Logos (disembodied) and Jesus (embodied) and we can talk about them distinctly. Therefore Jesus only exists from the conception though the Logos that was His spirit (hence fully God while fully man) existed eternally as part of God.

So, why?

I think it has something to do with Sheol/Hades (the land of the dead). And this is all me, I don’t’ even know if anyone has put this forward before. So, according to the OT we die and go to Hades (not Heaven or Hell) and that means that means we are unreachable by God. Why? Because God cannot be in the presence of sinners. Look at all the stuff they had to go through in the wilderness, all the sacrificial laws put in place because they were trying to deal with God one-on-one. So God can’t just nip down to Hades, but if Jesus dies then that’s where He goes and He can then preach the Evangelion to the dead and stop people from being forever separated from God. I think this is (maybe) the truth behind the idea that Jesus defeated death.

Finally on this train of thought, Jesus is the relatable God. Perhaps we will never be able to interact with God (after all even in our resurrection bodies we won’t be made into God, surely He will always be something greater than us), but we will be able to interact with Jesus as He keeps his human form, or some kind of similar (but better) form as our resurrection bodies.

Finally finally, this has huge impacts for us as Christians. If Jesus is God’s word/wisdom personified then we are flawed Jesuses. We have the law written on our hearts, we have the Holy Spirit within us. In this theory, that is what Jesus had (with the added ability to keep free from  sin) and so we have the ability to do and teach like Jesus did; that’s basically what the disciples did in Acts.